The user wants HistamineX or VitaMonk to include histamine-degrading strains like Lactobacillus Gasseri and Lactobacillus plantarum in their probiotic products to reduce the need for DAO supplementation.
The reason we take DAO is to *degrade histamines* before they can be absorbed into the bloodstream. Some of these histamines come from the ***intestinal flora*** rather than the food we eat. There are some probiotics that are specially formulated to be low in histamines, such as HistaminX and VitaMonk, but wouldn't it be nice if there was a probiotic that actually degraded histamines so we could take less DAO? This is what I was just researching and thought I would just drop my notes here for others to evaluate and comment on. There are four primary strains of bacteria that are known to **degrade histamines** that may be suitable for inclusion in a *Histamine Intolerance* specific probiotic. **Two are actually strains available as a probiotic, but only by themselves:** **Lactobacillus Gasseri** [https://www.amazon.com/Swanson-Lactobacillus-Metabolism-Acid-Resistant-Designed-Release/dp/B00OLQLS64?th=1](https://www.amazon.com/Swanson-Lactobacillus-Metabolism-Acid-Resistant-Designed-Release/dp/B00OLQLS64?th=1) **Lactobacillus plantarum** [https://www.amazon.com/Vitamatic-Lactobacillus-Plantarum-Digestive-Prebiotic/dp/B0CJQLC9P5?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref\_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A2BWIK2HM93SR4&gPromoCode=sns\_us\_en\_10\_2025Q1&gQT=1](https://www.amazon.com/Vitamatic-Lactobacillus-Plantarum-Digestive-Prebiotic/dp/B0CJQLC9P5?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A2BWIK2HM93SR4&gPromoCode=sns_us_en_10_2025Q1&gQT=1) If these cultures take hold in the intestinal flora then they will reduce the overall amount of histamine you need to deal with, and you would need to take less DAO each day. The good thing is bacteria multiply and can be self sustaining under the right conditions, so taking them can give even longer term relief. The other two are more difficult to obtain but may be available in the future. **PaeniBacillus polymyxa** (aka Bacillus polymyxa) Its only available for **agricultural use** \- no ingredients listed, so it is ***not suitable*** for human consumption [https://www.marknature.com/products/bacillus-polymyxa?variant=41681159651503&country=US¤cy=USD&com\_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c](https://www.marknature.com/products/bacillus-polymyxa?variant=41681159651503&country=US¤cy=USD&com_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c) A paper on its benifits: ***Dietary Paenibacillus polymyxa AM20*** *as a new probiotic: Improving effects on IR broiler growth performance, hepatosomatic index, thyroid hormones, lipid profile, immune response, antioxidant parameters, and caecal microorganisms* [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579123007587](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579123007587) **Virgibacillus campisalis** (*Vietnamese* ***fermented*** *fish sauce*) [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369305888\_Histamine-degrading\_halophilic\_bacteria\_from\_traditional\_fish\_sauce\_Characterization\_of\_Virgibacillus\_campisalis\_TT85\_for\_histamine\_reduction](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369305888_Histamine-degrading_halophilic_bacteria_from_traditional_fish_sauce_Characterization_of_Virgibacillus_campisalis_TT85_for_histamine_reduction) Both of these unavailable strains could be cultured (from Vietnamese fish sauce and the above agricultural product) but this would be labor intensive and require lab equipment. The two commercial probiotics are simply a no-brainer, but it would be real nice if there was a single probiotic product that contained all four of these strains plus a few other low-histamine probiotic strains for a more well rounded flora population. Perhaps we should collectively write to the two "low histamine" companies are urge them to include these other strains in their current products? The **low histamine** strains I know of are: Bifidobacterium infantis - HistaminX,VitaMonk Bifidobacterium bifidum - HistaminX,VitaMonk Bifidobacterium longum - HistaminX,VitaMonk Bifidobacterium lactis - HistaminX,VitaMonk Lactiplantibacillus plantarum - HistaminX,VitaMonk Ligilactobacillus salivarius - HistaminX Saccharomyces boulardii - VitaMonk Lactobacillus rhamnosus - VitaMonk Bifidobacterium breve - VitaMonk Thoughts, comments, questions?